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Obama's Hypocrisy
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April 30, 2008, 04:56:06 PM »
Reverend Wright @ the National Press Club
Barack Obama's vilified reverend, Jeremiah Wright, spoke to a packed house at the National Press Club Monday morning, and he blew them away! The Q & A session was the most honest, electrifying exchange in American politics I've ever seen. The commercial media are trying to downplay this event, but the truth is it was stunning -- the perfect example of exactly the sort of leadership the United States and the world need. Whatever you have to do to watch this entire clip, especially the Q & A section, it's worth it.
LO-FI VIDEO
C-SPAN VIDEO LIBRARY
Is it Me?
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The commercial media are trying to downplay this event . . .
The media really circled the wagons against Reverend Wright Monday night -- after they had all afternoon to get their story straight. Looks like my boy struck a nerve. And looks like some of the people I used to enjoy watching, like Olbermann, just got made: what a bunch of sore-loser collusionists!
Everyone
knows politicians aren't as free as civilians to say what they really think! So how does that point equate to "throwing Obama under the bus?" When it's the simple truth? If the media think Wright's brand of jugular incorrectness is bad now . . . just wait until the real problems start happening -- when global disaster mandates radical political incorrectness
for the survival of humanity!
And remember that it wasn't until [New Orleans Mayor] Ray Nagin had the audacity to be "incorrect," on the radio, that any other politician, much less our fraudulent media, even
began
to do
anything
to save American lives on American soil. ("Why would the government murder their own people?" I don't know; you tell me.)
Seriously, though: is it me? Is it me? Is it me . . . or the media!
Once upon a time, a race of persecuted people, their consciousness forever raised by the crimes committed against them, came to the undeniable conclusion, "never again," and I have to agree. Never again. Never again will I accidentally let my guard down with these half-assed pseudo-intellects, the media. The media. The whole media. Nothing but the media. Never again. I should have learned a long time ago, but sometimes you just have to get knocked around a bit to remember how bad things really are. I'm sick of seeing people in politics and the media use their willful ignorance as a barometer of truth, and defamation.
How can they not know how crazy that is?
Be advised these people will throw you under the bus the moment you get close to touching the house of cards that pays them. Just be aware of that reality in the event you decide someday to come out of hiding and say what you really think.
Obama's Hypocrisy
To me, Obama's response to Reverend Wright's appearance is the perfect example of political posturing. So maybe he isn't the candidate I thought he was. The hypocrisy of his most recent position on Reverend Wright is that he takes offense to the notion that he postures from time to time, as all politicians do,
then immediately repostures himself
in relation to the Reverend just to save his political ass, particularly after the defeats of Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.
Here's the AP's lead:
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WINSTON-SALEM, N.C. — Barack Obama angrily denounced his former pastor for "divisive and destructive" remarks on race, seeking to divorce himself from the incendiary speaker and a fury that threatens to engulf his front-running Democratic presidential campaign.
Obama is trying to tamp down the uproar over the Rev. Jeremiah Wright at a tough time in his campaign. The Illinois senator is coming off a loss in Pennsylvania to rival Hillary Rodham Clinton and trying to win over white working-class voters in Indiana and North Carolina in next Tuesday's primaries.
And this passage reveals the posturing perfectly:
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"If Senator Obama did not say what he said, he would never get elected," Wright said. "Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls."
. . . Facing that reality, Obama sought to distance himself further from Wright.
"I have been a member of Trinity United Church of Christ since 1992, and have known Reverend Wright for 20 years," Obama said. "The person I saw yesterday was not the person that I met 20 years ago."
The Illinois senator said of Wright's statements Monday: "All it was was a bunch of rants that aren't grounded in truth."
I'm sorry, but that's not true. "A bunch of rants that aren't grounded in truth" is the most distorted description of the press conference that could have been come up with. And Obama came up with it. (But, hey, at least his political posturing is true.)
I thought Wright's appearance was excellent, and I have to wonder why Obama would imply that someone like me is slanted toward "hate" just because I recognized the truth in Wright's words:
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"I believe [Wright's comments] end up giving comfort to those who prey on hate," Obama said.
So much for the theory of not being afraid to talk with our enemies? How about the guts to speak some radical truth for once! The fact that Obama distanced himself from Wright, after the fact, proves the reality of posturing once and for all -- whereas before it was open to interpretation. If Obama had just let this event roll off his back, I would have given him the benefit of the doubt, particularly given the hideous alternatives of Clinton and McCain. But, instead, my support of Obama as a viable candidate is under review -- but for reasons
opposite
from what the establishment, and Obama himself, are saying. If anyone isn't "grounded in truth," it's people who take everything the politicians and media say and do at face value, people who "fail to imagine" that, as the Reverend so accurately said, in reference to historically documented American genocide against Africans,
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. . .our government is capable of doing anything.
To "anything," add the murder of 3,000 Americans.
Remember when Obama accepted the resignation of one of his best foreign policy advisers, Samantha Power, because she used the word "monster?" I'm sure that decision had nothing to do with political posturing either.
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NOTE: This post doesn’t mean I support Ron Paul. Rather, as DeNiro said in
Once upon a time in America
, “It’s just the way I see things.” Peace.
-GR
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Doctorno
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Re: Obama's Hypocrisy
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May 01, 2008, 04:51:32 PM »
I posted links on the Faux news site:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/28/transcript-rev-wright-at-the-national-press-club/all-comments/#comments
It seems that there is no way to post there if You mention any other books that confirm what Rev. Wright said.
I posted links to Donald Scott's interviews from BoR and in other posts just mentioned the titles and authors.
Seems Fox don't want their slaves to read
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Doctorno
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Re: Obama's Hypocrisy
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May 01, 2008, 04:54:48 PM »
I did find one way into Fox readers, by posting at the Digg site that carried the story
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PurpleHaze
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Re: Obama's Hypocrisy
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May 24, 2008, 01:45:17 AM »
The Problem with Rev. Wright ... There are Too Few Like Him
Reverend Wright offers Obama an opportunity, it is a shame he has declared himself unwilling to take it. That is not Wright's problem. That is America's problem. It is America that is the embarrassment not Wright -- who merely points out what the country still has not deigned to admit, let alone correct.
http://www.counterpunch.org/vincent05132008.html
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Doctorno
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Re: Obama's Hypocrisy
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May 26, 2008, 04:50:55 PM »
Obama's strong words about Getting Tough with Iraq's political leadership smell of a CFR pill he was encouraged to swallow. He will make a great stooge for the CFR and the Bush World Order. His wife already belongs to the CFR. I have no doubt that he is about to get an education of a lifetime from his mentor Zbig and others.
?Sabe?
We have 3rd. parties to vote for, or go home and watch the Mariners attempt to play baseball...
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PurpleHaze
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Re: Obama's Hypocrisy
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June 08, 2008, 02:57:34 AM »
Obama Capitulates – to the Israel lobby
by Justin Raimondo
June 6, 2008
(excerpt)
The clock is ticking, and time is running out for the War Party: they must get in their licks before the most pro-Israel president, ever, leaves office. As Butcher writes: "Among Israeli supporters of military action against Iran there is concern something must be done before Mr. Bush's end of office next January as Mr. Bush is perceived as closer to Israel than any potential successor."
Don't look to Barack Obama for deliverance from this looming conflict. In his speech to AIPAC, he clearly signed on to the Lobby's latest project
, departing from his prepared text to declare:
"I will do everything in my power to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Everything in my power. Everything."
"Everything" includes murdering tens of thousands of Iranians, mostly civilians – driving the price of oil up above $300 a barrel and destroying the US economy – and involving us in a war that will make the Iraq conflict look like a Sunday school picnic. And for what?
The irony, of course, is that Iran is nowhere near obtaining nuclear weapons, as the President's own intelligence agencies recently informed him: but no matter. That's a small obstacle to those who disdain "the reality-based community," and see themselves as Making History while the rest of us watch, helpless and aghast. As Ha'aretz recently reported
"Olmert will try to convince Bush to set aside the National Intelligence Estimate on Iran's nuclear program in favor of data presented by Israel, and determine the administration's policy on Iran accordingly."
The coming war with Iran has nothing to do with "weapons of mass destruction" – no more than the invasion of Iraq ever did. It's all about preserving Israeli hegemony in the Middle East by wiping any and all recalcitrant Arab-Muslim states off the map. First Iraq, then Iran – and Syria will have its turn soon enough, along with poor prostrate Lebanon, once the jewel of the eastern Mediterranean and now an economic and political basket case.
It is almost certain we will be at war with Iran before a new President is inaugurated: now that Obama has capitulated to the Lobby, nothing but Divine Providence can stop it.
God help us all.
I have to say I was wrong – dead wrong – about Obama. In my eagerness to find a bright spot in a rapidly darkening world, I grasped on to his alluring rhetoric and his at-times trenchant critique of the Bush foreign policy, like a sinking man holding on to a life-jacket. But looking for hope in all the wrong places doesn't create opportunities for peace – it only prolongs our illusions. We must face the prospect of a much more terrible conflict than we have ever known, and look it squarely in the face, without flinching or looking for false messiahs. I know many of you are disappointed, and some of you are now exclaiming "I told you so!" All that we can do now is hope, and pray, that our country – and the Iranian people – will somehow survive the coming catastrophe.
http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12944
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Doctorno
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Re: Obama's Hypocrisy
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June 08, 2008, 10:48:40 PM »
No one condemns You.
People everywhere are making choices on limited information.
Because of limited schooling, they don't KNOW how to ask questions to begin with.
If a politician is slick enough, He or She can get away with almost anything.
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PurpleHaze
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Re: Obama's Hypocrisy
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June 11, 2008, 07:37:03 AM »
I have to say I was wrong – dead wrong – about Obama. In my eagerness to find a bright spot in a rapidly darkening world, I grasped on to his alluring rhetoric and his at-times trenchant critique of the Bush foreign policy, like a sinking man holding on to a life-jacket. But looking for hope in all the wrong places doesn't create opportunities for peace – it only prolongs our illusions. We must face the prospect of a much more terrible conflict than we have ever known, and look it squarely in the face, without flinching or looking for false messiahs. I know many of you are disappointed, and some of you are now exclaiming "I told you so!" All that we can do now is hope, and pray, that our country – and the Iranian people – will somehow survive the coming catastrophe.
http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12944
Quote from: Doctorno on June 08, 2008, 10:48:40 PM
No one condemns You.
People everywhere are making choices on limited information.
Because of limited schooling, they don't KNOW how to ask questions to begin with.
If a politician is slick enough, He or She can get away with almost anything.
Those were Justin Raimondo's words, not mine. I was trying to relate his sentiment more toward GlassRace than myself. But, I agree with you.
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PurpleHaze
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Re: Obama's Hypocrisy
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August 23, 2008, 08:11:27 AM »
August 21, 2008
How Obama Blew It
Loserville
By DAVE LINDORFF (excerpt)
Well, it’s happened, and it’s no surprise.
Barack Obama, the prospective Democratic presidential candidate, has managed to turn a 5-8 point lead over prospective Republican opponent John McCain into a 7-point deficit—a double-digit slide—in just two and a half months following a campaign that had voters really excited over his candidacy.
How did he manage this feat (which is documented in the latest latest Reuters/Zogby poll)?
Simple: he followed the tried-and-true strategy of Democratic centrist advisers who have increasingly dominated his campaign since the end of the primaries, and who have a proven track record of producing Democratic electoral disasters now for several decades.
Like John Kerry and Al Gore before him, Obama, who ran his primary campaign as a liberal, staking out an anti-war position, has morphed over recent weeks into a Republican-lite candidate, calling for a hard line against Palestinian rights, threatening to attack Iran, calling for an expansion of the disastrous war in Afghanistan, and backing away from genuine health care reform and other important progressive goals here at home.
One might think that after watching Democratic candidates lose the last two presidential elections by following exactly this kind of “strategy,” if it can be called that, Obama and his campaign managers would have decided to try something different, but it appears that the Democratic Party at the top is hopelessly in the grip of corporate interests that favor war, free-market nostrums and corporate welfare. (Okay, I know Gore really won the 2000 election, but he should have won it so convincingly—for example taking New Hampshire and his home state of Tennessee—that the election couldn’t have been stolen. And Kerry, similarly, should not have had his race determined by a close vote in economically distressed Ohio, which should have been his by a blowout.)
Obama got where he is—the first African-American major party nominee and the first black candidate with a real shot at winning the White House—by appealing to the Democratic Party’s liberal base. Now Zogby reports that Obama’s support among liberals has plunged 12 percent. That’s liberals folks!
I count myself among those on the left who have turned away from
this fast-talking eel of a candidate
.
It’s not a matter of turning to McCain, who is if anything more dangerous than President Bush because of his fondness for war and his evident lack of any kind of principles, not to mention his personal greed.
But how can I or any progressive vote for a presidential candidate who goes from opposing a war to saying he not only supports the idea of keeping troops in Iraq for another five years—the length of the entire WWII!—but who further says he won’t rule out attacking Iran, even if that country poses no imminent threat to the US, simply because it develops nuclear weapons—the same weapons that our putative friends, Pakistan and India, have? How can I vote for a candidate who wants to expand the military (by 65,000 troops) instead of shrinking this huge, bloodsucking parasite of an organization which is costing as much as the rest of the world spends on its armies?
How can I or any progressive vote for a presidential candidate who cannot state categorically that he will defend the Constitution by reversing all of President Bush’s abuses of power and who will not promise to prosecute the president and members of his administration for any crimes committed while in office?
There has clearly been a decision made in the Obama campaign to soft-pedal liberal positions and to make Obama appear “safe” and uncontroversial. The result has been his precipitous slide in the polls.
http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff08212008.html
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PurpleHaze
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Re: Obama's Hypocrisy
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Obama's Cheney
Joe Biden on the ticket with Obama, as we said on Monday,
is a big victory for the War Party
, which will not, as a result, be shut out of power if the Democrats take the White House.
Think peace is going to break out when the multi-culti messiah puts his feet up on the desk in the Oval Office? Well, I hate to disappoint all you loyal Democrats – and optimistic sorts – out there, but
you had better think again
….
Under a Democratic administration, we will see increased U.S. intervention in the Caucasus and Central Asia. We may be out of Iraq, but we could very well be knee-deep in Georgia (and Kazakhstan, god forbid).
In Obama's America, like Bush's, the system will be fully in place, and Biden's ascension to the number two spot on the Democratic ticket assures the ruling elite that they will endure.
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=13378
The Hideous Horror of the Biden Selection
Biden has been one of the leading congressional supporters of U.S. militarization of the Middle East and Eastern Europe, of strict economic sanctions against Cuba, and of Israeli occupation policies.
Most significantly, however, Biden, who chaired the Senate Foreign Relations Committee during the lead-up to the Iraq War during the latter half of 2002, was perhaps the single most important congressional backer of the Bush administration's decision to invade that oil-rich country.
http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2008/08/death-match-ii-hideous-horror-of-biden.html
Obama's War Room
On June 18, Obama convened the first meeting of his "Senior Working Group on National Security," a collection of advisers and possible future Cabinet members in a new administration--many of them former Clinton administration operators.
Their record of war-making and imperial arrogance is enough to make your blood curdle
.
Could the evidence be any clearer that an Obama presidency will have a lot more in common with the outgoing Bush administration than differences?
http://www.counterpunch.org/schulte07072008.html
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Re: Obama's Hypocrisy
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U.S. Killed 60 Children, in Afghan Village, U.N. Finds
August 26, 2008
KABUL, Afghanistan — A United Nations human rights team has found “convincing evidence” that 90 civilians — among them 60 children — were killed in airstrikes on a village in western Afghanistan on Friday, according to the United Nations mission in Kabul.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/27/world/asia/27herat.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
U.S. to look again at civilian deaths in Afghan raid
Sep 08, 2008
KABUL (Reuters) - The U.S. military said it planned to reopen an investigation into civilian deaths in a coalition air strike in western Afghanistan last month after new evidence emerged about casualties.
The military had earlier disputed an Afghan government allegation that more than 90 people, many of them women and children, died in the Aug. 22 raid in western Herat's Shindand district, a figure backed by the United Nations
But late on Sunday, the military issued a statement saying it was seeking a review of its original finding that five to seven civilians had died in the operation.
"There is some evidence that suggests that the evidence that the United States military used in the conduct of its investigation may not have been complete," he said.
The New York Times said Sunday cellphone videos and other images showed bodies of women and children laid out in the village mosque where the strike occurred.
It said its reporter had seen cellphone images shot by a villager of at least 11 dead children, some apparently with blast and concussion injuries.
Ten days after the airstrikes, villagers dug up the last victim from the rubble, a baby just a few months old, it said
.
An Afghan doctor who runs a clinic in a nearby village told the newspaper he counted 50 to 60 bodies of civilians, most of them women and children and some of them his own patients, laid out in the village mosque on the day of the strike.
http://wiredispatch.com/news/?id=335662
Raw Video: Afghans Civilians Killed by U.S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx9TtNSg8eE&eurl=http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/2008/09/08/videos-show-dead-afghan-children-after-us-raid-in-azizabad.html
At Least 23 Killed as US Drones Attack School in North Waziristan
Posted September 8, 2008
This morning two US Predator Drones attacked a small village two miles north of Miramshah in Pakistan’s North Waziristan Agency, killing at least 23 and wounding 20 others. Ten of those killed were said by officials to be militants, although a previous official was quoted as saying “no foreign militant was killed” in the strike.
At least four women and two children were reported among the dead and most of the wounded are also reported to be women and children
.
The strike comes just days after an earlier US drone strike on another village not far from Miramshah, but on the Afghan side of the mountainous border, killed at least five civilians. It also comes less than a week after US ground troops killed 20 civilians in an attack on a village in South Waziristan, an action which led to widespread condemnation from Pakistan’s government and military, as well as anti-US protests among the tribesmen in the area.
http://news.antiwar.com/2008/09/08/at-least-20-civilians-killed-as-us-drones-attack-school-in-north-waziristan/
Afghans will dig up graves to prove civilian deaths
"We will welcome them if they visit our bombed village to investigate. But we should have a deal first,
if the Americans are proved wrong, then they should leave Afghanistan in shame
"
http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/rawanews.php?id=734
Off-target NATO bomb kills 2 Afghan civilians
Tuesday, September 9, 2008
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — A NATO bomb mistakenly hit a house 1 1/2 miles off target Tuesday, killing two civilians and wounding 10 even as Afghanistan's president was saying that terrorism cannot be defeated if innocents are killed in coalition operations.
NATO said the bomb that went off target was aimed at a spot used by insurgents to fire rockets in eastern Khost province but the weapon malfunctioned and hit a civilian house.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jkKFU8CvHoLV5ont_58iLTVBWLVQD933DSAG0
Obama: Bush plan for Afghanistan
not enough
Tuesday, September 9, 2008
RIVERSIDE, Ohio (AP) —
Barack Obama said President Bush isn't acting quickly or forcefully enough to get more U.S. forces into Afghanistan
and out of Iraq.
"His plan comes up short — it is not enough troops, not enough resources, with not enough urgency," Obama said.
"The next president will inherit a status quo that is still unstable."
The Democratic presidential nominee said Bush doesn't understand that Afghanistan and Pakistan are the central front in the war on terrorism
, not Iraq. He said his Republican White House rival, John McCain, doesn't get that, either.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080909/ap_on_el_pr/candidates_war
Obama wants to shrink one war, but expand two others
http://www.greenchange.org/article.php?id=2983
Blackwater Protected Barack Obama in Afghanistan
Whispers confirms that Blackwater did handle the Democratic presidential candidate's security in Afghanistan and helped out in Iraq.
What's more, Obama was overheard saying: "Blackwater is getting a bad rap."
http://www.buzzflash.net/story.php?id=62113
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It's the Issues, Stupid - The Obama Poll Drop
by Michael Colby
September 9, 2008
Oh no, guess what? The liberals are nervous. Yep, the obedient lib-Dems are finally starting to realize that the little party they were having in the immediate aftermath of the Sarah Palin selection may have been a bit premature. Oops.
Liberals never learn. Dems can’t seem to win. And the two phenomena are as connected as John McCain’s eyes have been connected to Palin’s ass.
Drunk on their Obama Kool-aid, the lib-Dems have been putting together their fantasy cabinet selections, planning their election-night party plans, and trying to figure out whom to meet or whom to give money to in order to get some prized inaugural dance tickets. In their minds, this presidential race was over before they could even dismantle the faux-stage at their faux-convention.
Cue screeching car sound – as in: The rubber hitting the road.
Because the polling news hasn’t been good. While the lib-Dems have been blogging and pontificating themselves into a stupor over all the stupid stuff about Palin, the American people have been moving away from Obama and toward – say what? – the McCain/Palin ticket. And the movement has been significant enough for the likes of Kos, AmericaBlog and Talking Points Memo – three leading liberal blogs – to use words like “panic,” “worried” and “overestimated” while describing the current state of affairs.
Worse,
the lib-Dems are refusing to look in the mirror while trying to come up with a reason for the Obama/Biden slip in the polls and the near-derailment in its messaging.
Instead, they keep hitting the whining button and doing what they hate most in their conservative counterparts: Blaming the media and getting slimier and slimier with their personal attacks. Anything, in fact, but face the fact that their candidates and their party have all but abandoned “the issues” at the very moment when voters are beginning to ponder them.
If, as political scientists like to tell us, this is the time when voters start to pay attention, consider what they’re hearing from Obama and the Democratic Party:
On the Iraq War, Obama was pushed into saying that the “surge worked beyond anyone’s wildest expectations” to the Fox News blowhard, Bill O’Reilly. Despite being an inaccurate – if not completely spineless – position, it effectively handed what was the number one issue directly over to Mr. Surge himself, John McCain.
On energy issues, the Dems are in the middle of doing an about-face on offshore drilling. Instead of showing some spine and sanity in the face of the Republican’s new – and scary – hit chant of “drill baby, drill,” the Dems are flip-flopping like McCain on the issue and, according to The Hill, preparing to help pass new offshore drilling allowances.
* On health care, the Obama campaign continues to muddy and muddle through a confusing and all-but-impossible to understand “solution” that will allow the insurance companies and “the market” to remain in control. If it sounds a lot like the Hilary plan of 1993, well, it is. And we all know how that ended up – 15 long years ago. Thanks Dems. Sorry, but any health care plan from the Dems that doesn’t include the words “universal” or “single-payer” is just a pale imitation of the Republicans’ plan. In other words, not much change there.
And that’s what the lib-Dems don’t get:
When you talk the talk of change, you’ve also got to walk the walk. Otherwise, you look like John Kerry or Al Gore. You know, two guys who took the voting public for fools by refusing to stand firm on their issues, changed issue-horses in mid-stream and, as a result, were both L.O.S.E.R.S.
Earth to the lib-Dems: This is no time to silence yourselves when it comes to the issues. This is the time to stand firm, talk tough and demand that your beloved Obama/Biden ticket listen to you. You know, kind of like the Christian right threatened to stay home unless one of their own was put on the McCain ticket. And then down came Palin.
Sadly – if not completely predictable – this election is starting to look like a rerun, complete with the liberal “shock, shock, shock!”
Yes, indeed: It’s the issues, stupid.
http://www.counterpunch.org/
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Re: Obama's Hypocrisy
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Jim Fetzer
Jim comments on the strange poll results showing Obama losing ground
He makes several points extolling Obama and showing McCain's ineptitude
http://www.blackopradio.com/pod/black388b.mp3
Fetzer seriously lacks depth perception. While I agree that Obama sounds better than McCain on
some
domestic issues, (he scares me on surveillance and so-called "gun control," though) they are virtual clones when it comes to foreign policy. Obama has promised to deepen our "involvement" in both Afghanistan and Pakistan, while backpeddling on his commitment to get us out of Iraq. He's badmouthing Russia, supports bringing Georgia and Ukraine into NATO, (which is nuts) and seems to have the same views on Latin America and Israel that McCain has. He's surrounded himself with liars, warmongers, and political hacks of the worst sort.
Of course, Fetzer was a Clinton fan, too. We have Clinton to thank for NAFTA and GATT, NATO expansion right up to Russia's border, continuing the Bush sanctions that killed at least a million Iraqis, bombing Yugoslavia based on a pack of lies, Mena and crack cocaine, a bigger fake "drug war," the great Telecom rip-off, tossing out the banking reforms made after the Great Depression, (intended to prevent the mess we're sliding into now) gutting AFDC, the WACO massacre, the first WTC attack, and Oklahoma City, followed by what was essentially the first phase of the "Patriot Act." I'm sure I'm forgetting a few things.
Obama will surely disappoint those who see him as a knight in shining armor. Then again, what's the alternative? The worse of two evils. This is how they play the game.
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Gotta love the "two party system." Stockpile some food and water, keep some cash on hand...
War
is always a good distraction from a domestic crisis...
Barack Obama’s Biggest Contributors: Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?id=N00009638&cycle2=2008&goButt2.x=10&goButt2.y=10&goButt2=Submit
Goldman Sachs
$691,930
Citigroup Inc
$448,599
JPMorgan Chase & Co
$442,919
UBS AG
$404,750
Lehman Brothers
$370,524
Morgan Stanley
$318,070
Goldman Sachs
$208,395
Citigroup Inc
$269,251
JPMorgan Chase & Co
$179,975
UBS AG
$140,165
Lehman Brothers
$117,500
Morgan Stanley
$233,272
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Doctorno
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Re: Obama's Hypocrisy
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September 28, 2008, 06:14:07 AM »
I feel most people are blind to the faults of their favorite race horse. I have seen a shift in Jim as I do notice He is showing interest in Jesse Ventura.
I notice the same glassy eyed, grinning idiot, vacant stares in worshipers at Palin Rallies as I have seen at O'bama Rallies.
I suppose it was no different at Hitler rallies. People saw something they wanted, not something that was actually going to be delivered.
Leaders know this. FDR said the average emotional and intellectual age of most Americans is about 11 to 12.
"Making a Big mistake if You think it was more than that". The average age may be much lower today.
Yes, I think it in order to find a source for a plastic bucket or two of hard red wheat stored with a chunk of dry ice. some way to grind it or sprout it.
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