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      <title>National-socialist assets take over American government</title>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:33:34 -0500</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>th.deflo</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[See<br><a href="http://knol.google.com/k/thomas-deflo/national-socialist-assets-take-over/ibo34n8xv1r1/57?auth=DQAAAIcAAACj0L2qfMh2p-z4b5DTYYdmFOdEH7nlSaDSD&amp;pli=1#" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://knol.google.com/k/thomas-deflo/national-socialist-assets-take-over/ibo34n8xv1r1/57?auth=DQAAAIcAAACj0L2qfMh2p-z4b5DTYYdmFOdEH7nlSaDSD&amp;pli=1#</a>]]></description>
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      <title>Motive for killing Kennedy family</title>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 06:50:08 -0500</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>th.deflo</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[It seems that the Kennedys were killed because they knew about an off-planet invader. It has been documented that JFK found out about what happened in New Mexico in 1947. He told family members and close friends, amongst whom Marilyin Monroe.<br><br>See <a href="http://www.majesticdocuments.com/documents/1960-1969.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.majesticdocuments.com/documents/1960-1969.php</a> <br><br>The MJ-12 document titled &quot;Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit Summary,&quot; noted Kennedy&#39;s insider knowledge. This document, apparently written soon after the crashes in New Mexico during July 1947, states, &quot;It has become known to CIC [Counter Intelligence Corps] that some of the recovery operation was shared with Representative John F. Kennedy, Massachusetts Democrat elected to Congress in &#39;46, Son of Joseph P. Kennedy, Commission on Organization of the Executive Branch of the Government. [Jack] Kennedy had limited duty as naval officer assigned to Naval Intelligence during the war. It is believed that information [concerning the Roswell crashes] was obtained from [a] source in Congress who is close to [the] Secretary for Air Force.&quot; <br><br><br>]]></description>
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      <title>Johnny Carson 20 year Anniversery Documentary &amp; Jim Garrison</title>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 10:05:21 -0400</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>robert1</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This morning (12May2012) on CBS morning news, the anchors interviewed an documentary filmmaker who made a 20th anniversery documentary of Johnny Carson's last late night show (than taken over by Jay Leno for newbbies).&nbsp; &nbsp; I believe the film maker said&nbsp;last night&nbsp;was the premere of it.&nbsp; He said Mrs. Carson (3d) was there.&nbsp; The film maker says there is now a database that one could now watch various Carson shows that was heretofor unavailable.&nbsp; He didn't say the name of the database however.&nbsp; It was discussed how much Carson would listen to his guests and that it was the success of the show, &nbsp;that he would remain quiet so the audience would like the show and in turn like him.&nbsp; In addition, one of the hosts asked the film maker, "was anyone&nbsp;banned from the show".&nbsp; He thought for a few seconds, then said that Johnny hated Rock &amp; Roll so no rock bands were on.&nbsp; Then he went on to say that the only other person not allowed on the show was Joan Rivers.&nbsp; Rivers subsititued on the show &amp; aparently was known as "Mrs. Tonight Show".&nbsp; The show then went to a film clip of Rivers and the film maker said that Johnny was hurt more by Rivers new Fox late night talk show then by his divorces.&nbsp; He didn't know about Rivers new show in advance.&nbsp; The interview stopped there indicating that no one else had been banned on the show.</p><br><p>Maybe the Jim Garrison interview will be included in the database and people will see the "real" Carson.&nbsp; It was said on the program that Johnny would sometimes drink to much.&nbsp; That each of his wives were verbally abused and that he never started divorce proceedings, it was always the wives.</p><br><p>&nbsp;</p><br><p>&nbsp;</p><br><p><br>&nbsp;</p><br><p>&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
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      <title>Pentagon creating &quot;New&quot; intelligence service</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 06:20:40 -0400</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>pertinax193</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[Too bad Prouty not around to analyze and inform on this one.  Is the CIA scuttled that badly?  What is this cover for?]]></description>
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      <title>rich delarosa forum cds</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:32:07 -0400</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>joesgot4</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[where can you get the cds that rich delarosa was giving for forum members who donated?]]></description>
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      <title>Mainstream History JFK book error !!</title>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 03:59:20 -0400</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Mark UK Ruby</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[<span style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: small;">Bought this book as a gift recently for my 7 year old nephew. The book is called "Discover The Extreme World" and is published by Discovery Channel. Basically it is a children's encyclopedia with big pictures and facts etc.</span><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;">Anyway, to get to the point - I was skimming through the book and came across a caption re: JFK, and the book stated that JFK was shot four times !! I have never seen a mainstream book, especially one that is in the education genre for children, say this !</div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;">Check out my links for a couple of pictures that I took of the book and the caption.</div><div><span style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: small;"><a href="http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab64/markren/JFkerror.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab64/markren/JFkerror.jpg</a></span></div><div><span style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: small;"><a href="http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab64/markren/JFkerror2.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab64/markren/JFkerror2.jpg</a></span></div>]]></description>
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      <title>Dartmouth College scientist:  Oswald photo genuine</title>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:21:52 -0500</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[HANOVER, N.H., Nov. 6 (UPI) -- An iconic photo of accused presidential assassin Lee Harvey Oswald was not faked as claimed by some, an American academic says.<br><br>Computer scientist Hany Farid at Dartmouth College digitally analyzed the picture with modern forensic tools and says it was not altered, the college announced Thursday.<br><br>The photo shows the alleged John F. Kennedy assassin in his Dallas back yard holding up both a rifle and Marxist literature. Oswald and others claimed the photo to be faked, citing inconsistent shadows and lighting.<br><br>&quot;If we had found evidence of photo tampering, then it would have suggested a broader plot to kill JFK,&quot; Farid said. &quot;Those who believe that there was a broader conspiracy can no longer point to this photo as possible evidence.&quot;<br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2009/11/06/Scientist-says-Oswald-photo-not-faked/UPI-59031257566355/">http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2009/11/06/Scientist-says-Oswald-photo-not-faked/UPI-59031257566355/</a><br>]]></description>
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      <title>Stephen King&#039;s &quot;11/22/63</title>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 19:48:42 -0400</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>mobius32</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[Well, I just finished my first Stephen King book, "11/22/63". As a book, it's mildly entertaining (emphasis on "mildly") in parts if you enjoy speculative fiction; but I wouldn't recommend that anyone buy it. Spolier alert: this book is about a guy who travels in time back to 1963 to stop the JFK murder.  To make a long story short, the book concludes that Oswald was the lone shooter (and a malcontent, etc, etc)(I have no idea why I thought King would have concluded otherwise, but I guess that's what made me buy the book).  Anyway, the kicker, as Jim DeG would say, is that King has an afterword in the book in which he states that he's 98 percent sure Oswald acted alone; he cites his reading list as Case Closed (Posner), Legend (Epstein), Oswald's Tale (Mailer) .... and he gives a big salute to the Gary Mack and the 6th Floor Museum ... he also buys the fact that Ruby killed Oswald because Ruby so distraught over JFK's death.  By this point, I should have gagged ... so, save yourself your dollars and time.<br /><br />But this ridiculous book made me ask this question: If you had to give the top 5 or 10 reasons that heavily suggest that JFK was killed in a conspiracy, what would they be? I know that Len has asked this question, but here are two facts (ASSUMING I'm correct, and please correct me if I'm wrong) that in and of themselves suggest that Oswald's story is much more complicated than the WC presented.  In fact, if I'm correct about these facts, I might even write to King myself and politely tell him how wrong he is :-)<br /><br />My list:<br /><br />(1) Jack Ruby attends press conference held in basement of Dallas Police Dept on day of the assassination. Ruby corrects the speaker regarding Oswald's involvement with the Fair Play for Cuba Committee.  I have seen photos of video of a man at this conference who very much looks like Ruby; and I've seen an interview of someone who says that Ruby was there (the someone, I believe, was the person given the briefing re: Oswald).  I would be very curious what Posner's of the world have to say about this, and perhaps someone who has done deeper research can tell me.  Otherwise, you have ask what the hell is Ruby doing at a press conference correcting info re: Oswald.<br /><br />2) Ruby knew Oswald. How did the Warren Commission and its defenders deal with the numerous people who said that they recognized Oswald because Ruby introduced them?<br /><br />I'm sorry I even bought this book.<br /><br />]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:17:40 -0400</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>heinrich</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[Here's an odd item:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-03/petite-particle-accelerator-proton-gun-killing-tumors" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-03/petite-particle-accelerator-proton-gun-killing-tumors</a>]]></description>
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      <title>Gary Mack</title>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:27:52 -0500</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>pat1</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[Can anyone tell me why Gary Mack changed his story after appearing in &quot;the men who killed kennedy&quot; what happened to his belief that it was a conspiracy?<br><br>Also I am trying to put together a piece on Roger Craig who was a policeman who killed himself in 73 involved with the case?<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Pat<br> :)<br>]]></description>
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      <title>One opinion from the jury.</title>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:23:31 -0500</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>dogdove</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[I call myself the jury becasue I am not a researcher, I am the audience for researchers.&nbsp; I have now listened to 100 archived shows and find them to be very enlightening and, even if the subject is dark, quite enjoyable.&nbsp; What prompted me to post was one James H Fetzer.&nbsp; He is featured prominently in these first 100 episodes, and is one of the big names in conspiracy research.&nbsp; And something is wrong with him.<br>&nbsp; I say this even though I agree with most of the things he says, and most of the facts he presents seem to be quite sound.&nbsp; His absolutely childish rant against Josiah Thompson was contemptible.&nbsp; Fine, I get it, you two disagree over Z film alteration.&nbsp; And that&#39;s the civil level of tone he should have had.&nbsp; But Fetzer is almost violently opposed to anyone who disagrees with him.&nbsp; I have heard his evidence for Z film alteration and, like Len, I&#39;m still on the fence about it.&nbsp; None of the evidence seems absolute or concrete no matter how many times, or how loudly, Mr. Fetzer proclaims it.&nbsp; Another instance of disgusting behavior came when Anita mentioned that John Judge had evidence contrary to Mr.Fetzers &#39;a missle hit the Pentagon&#39; theory.&nbsp; He almost exploded with contempt, and patronized poor Anita to such an extent that I almost could not listen anymore.&nbsp; It is as if, in his quest to understand the deeper and hidden truths evidenced by these events (911 and Dallas) that something broke in Mr. Fetzer.&nbsp; After a lifetime of constructing, in his head, the &#39;Truth&#39;, any derivation from that truth explodes his own sense of reality.&nbsp; In other words, disagree with Fetzer and he goes ape sh** crazy.<br>&nbsp; So now I look forward to the first appearance in the archives of Jim DiEugineo, my favorite voice in the community.&nbsp; As for Mr. Fetzer, I regard him now as a fairly interesting clown.<br><br>Charlie Moser<br>Chicago]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:30:54 -0400</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>robert1</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[<br>August 24, 2010 The other night on the TV show &quot;Pawn Brokers&quot; a man came in with a late WWII hand grenade.&nbsp; An authority was brought in to describe the item and give it&#39;s value.&nbsp; Come to find out, it was made by Eastman Kodak.&nbsp; It was made for the OSS (now CIA).&nbsp; It was also mentioned that Kodak made other &quot;cool stuff&quot; for the U.S. government.&nbsp; In Doug Horne&#39;s 5 volume set he discusses Kodak in detail and all of it&#39;s &quot;pro bono&quot; work for the AARB.&nbsp; ]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:33:19 -0400</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[I took the liberty of editing Prouty&#39;s page on Wikipedia to the following effect.&nbsp; Whereas the article previously claimed that Prouty believed FDR was assassinated by the &quot;Churchill Gang&quot;, this claim has been deleted.<br><br>A careful look at Prouty&#39;s article &quot;Who Killed Franklin D. Roosevelt?&quot; shows that Prouty&#39;s thesis was only this:<br><br>&quot;We all know that there are amazing stories that can not be found in the history books. That is what I am saying here.&quot;<br><br>Prouty recounted an anecdote previously published in PARADE and used it to simply suggest that there is more to history than the history books.<br><br>Best wishes.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 08:07:45 -0500</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>MinM</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[<h2 class="maintitle"><br>		<span class="main_topic_title"><br>			<a rel="nofollow" href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18736">LeMay on 11/22/63</a></span></h2>***<br>This is in relation to a film called <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048667/" class="postlink"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Strategic Air Command</span> (1955)</a><br><br><img src="http://www.cinemapassion.com/affiches/strategic_air_command.jpg" alt="image"><br><br>The government was upset at the portrayal of a secondary character (<br> <span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>"Gen. Ennis C. Hawkes"</b></span> played by Frank Lovejoy) who too closely <br>resembled the current Air Force commander <b><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_LeMay" class="postlink">Curtis LeMay</a></b>.<br>   The original drafts of the script hit too close to home.  It showed <br>him as he was.  Super-reactionary and arguably insane.  The Studios <br>caved and replaced the original screenwriter immediately, but Jimmy <br>Stewart and Anthony Mann tried to get their names taken off the picture.<br>  They failed.<br><br><br>LeMay was later lampooned in Dr. Strangelove by George C. Scott.<br><br><a href="http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=120197#p120197" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=120197#p120197</a><br><br>]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:17:10 -0500</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[Dates for 2012 Spy Conference in Raleigh, NC announced for August 22 - 24, 2012 at the North Carolina Museum of History, please see... www.raleighspyconference.com .&nbsp; <br>]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:05:41 -0500</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<b>Subject: the fourth draft of the history of the Cuban missile crisis</b><br><br><br><a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=355197#p355197">http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=355197#p355197</a><br><br><br>More debunking of David Halberstam:						<br><br><div class="quotecontent">While <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=269884#p269884" class="postlink">I. F. Stone</a>. <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=335823#p335823" class="postlink">Seymour</a> <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=335977#p335977" class="postlink">Hersh</a>, <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ctka.net/reviews/virtual_jfk_3.html" class="postlink"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">David Halberstam</span></a>...<br><br><br><br><div class="quotecontent">Bundy decided to look back on his role in the debacle. One of the first books he read was David Halberstams's <span style="color: #006600;">The Best and the Brightest</span>. A book in which he figured prominently. Although he thought it was an<br>entertaining and informative read, he concluded that the central thesis<br>was just wrong. (pgs. 148-49) It was not the advisers—the best and<br>brightest—who did the staff work who got us into the Vietnam War. It<br>was the difference in the men who occupied the Oval Office. It was the<br>difference between Kennedy and Johnson...</div><br><br><br><strong><a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2010/08/27/06" class="postlink">On The Media: Transcript of "Missile Crisis Memories" (August 27, 2010)</a></strong><br><br><br><div class="quotecontent"><span style="color: red;">BOB<br>GARFIELD:</span> Machismo was certainly part of the popular image of JFK back<br>then. Here's a clip from a 1970s TV docudrama Missiles of October,<br>starring a very young William Devane.<br><br><br>[CLIP]:<br><br><br><span style="color: darkgreen;">WILLIAM<br>DEVANE/JOHN F. KENNEDY:</span> Now we must convey an uncompromising message.<br>This government is prepared to negotiate, but not until those missiles<br>are removed from Cuba. We will not be deterred. We will not be shaken.<br>We'll bomb, if we must. We'll invade if we must.<br><br><br>[END CLIP]<br><br><br><span style="color: mediumblue;">FRED<br>KAPLAN:</span> Yeah, that, that clip is just hilarious, diametrically opposed<br>to the way John Kennedy was acting at any of those sessions. In fact,<br>this does lead us to the fourth draft of history, tapes that Kennedy<br>had secretly been making. Long before Nixon and before Johnson, Kennedy<br>was taping a lot of things that happened in the Oval Office and in the<br>Cabinet Room, where the ex-con meetings took place. And we hear very<br>clearly in those meetings that Kennedy took Khrushchev's offer of the<br>missile trade very, very seriously.<br><br><br>In fact, on the third day of<br>the crisis, Kennedy is already musing that well, you know, Khrushchev,<br>he's made a miscalculation. He's obviously done this for bargaining<br>leverage, and we're going to have to help him find a way to save face.<br>Maybe if we trade those missiles in Turkey for the missiles in Cuba,<br>that might be the answer. Nobody even takes him up on it. So on the<br>last day of the crisis, when Khrushchev does bring it up, he's very<br>eager to take it. And, in fact, he is the only one in the room who's<br>willing to take it.<br><br><br>You know, there's been this, this model from<br>the first draft of history on, that the room was divided into hawks and<br>doves and centrists. But, in fact, on the last couple of days of the<br>crisis, the room was divided between John Kennedy and everybody else.<br>Everybody else in that room wanted to bomb the missiles in Cuba, and<br>only John Kennedy wanted to take the trade.<br><br><br><span style="color: red;">BOB GARFIELD:</span> Now, unaccustomed as we are to having presidential tapes reveal the president in a positive light [LAUGHS] —<br><br><br><span style="color: mediumblue;">FRED KAPLAN:</span> Yeah.<br><br><br><span style="color: red;">BOB<br>GARFIELD:</span> — Nixon certainly was ensnared by his own voice on tape — it<br>must have had an astonishing effect. When were the tapes released, and<br>how long did it take before this real version of history informed our<br>public understanding of the crisis?<br><br><br><span style="color: mediumblue;">FRED KAPLAN:</span> Word of the<br>tapes first came out in 1982, 20 years after the crisis, when several<br>of Kennedy's advisors — McGeorge Bundy, Robert McNamara, a few others —<br>wrote a little article in Time Magazine in which they admitted that the<br>myth of the Cuban missile crisis was false.<br><br><br>When I interviewed<br>Ted Sorensen about this five years ago, he admitted that basically<br>Kennedy, after that last ex-con meeting, he took seven people into his<br>office and he told them that look, I'm sending my brother over to the<br>Soviet Embassy and I'm going to accept this deal, but you can't tell<br>anybody, and that after Kennedy was assassinated they all got together<br>and pledged that nobody would ever reveal this.<br><br><br>The first tape<br>was revealed in 1987, and it was of the last day of the crisis where<br>Khrushchev comes out with a deal and Kennedy says hey, this is a pretty<br>good deal, and everybody in the room is shouting him down, saying this<br>will wreck NATO, we can't do this, it'll, it'll ruin our credibility.<br><br><br>Kennedy<br>lets them talk on and at one point he says look, to any man at the<br>United Nations or any other rational man it will look like a very fair<br>trade. I'm reading from the transcript here. And later he also says,<br>and this I think is the - is the telling point, he says, well I'm just<br>thinking about what we're going to have to do in a day or so, which is<br>500 sorties. The Air Strike Plan called for 500 air sorties against the<br>Cuban missile sites every day for seven days...<br></div></div>]]></description>
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      <title>Should Oliver Stone make RFK?</title>
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      <description><![CDATA[I was wanting to share my thoughts on this. I have been thinking for quite awhile now that I would love to see Oliver Stone make a movie about Robert Kennedy&#39;s murder just like he did with JFK. I think that since this case isn&#39;t as widely known as JFK is it would help to bring to light a lot of information that a lot of people don&#39;t already know. I don&#39;t know about everyone here but I was very disappointed in Emilio Estevedz&#39;s Bobby. I loved the footage of him in it but it wasn&#39;t what I thought it should have been. Anyway please discuss your views, thought, and opinions. :) :) :) :)]]></description>
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      <description><![CDATA[I heard this mentioned on a recent Black Op Show so took a look at the list, was surprised of some that were missing, bow I have pasted the list in<br><br><br><br><b>The Top Ten JFK Assassination Books <br>By James DiEugenio </b> <br><br><br><br> 1. Rush to Judgment, by Mark Lane (1966) <br> 2. Accessories After the Fact, by Sylvia Meagher (1967) <br> 3. Presumed Guilty, by Howard Roffman (1975) <br> 4.Conspiracy, by Anthony Summers (1981) *<br> 5. Spy Saga, by Philip Melanson (1990) <br> 6 The Last Investigation, by Gaeton Fonzi (1993) <br> 7. Let Justice Be Done, by Bill Davy (1999) <br> 8. The Assassinations, Jim DiEugenio and Lisa Pease, Eds. (2003) *<br> 9. Breach of Trust, by Gerald McKnight (2005) <br>10. JFK and the Unspeakable, by James Douglass (2008)*<br><br><br><br>* = I have thse books<br><br><br><br>I was surprised at some books that were missing and I wanted thoughts from you guys.<br><br><br><br>1. The Killing of A President by Robert Groden<br><br>2. On The Trail of The Assassins by Jim Garrison<br><br>3. Murder in Dealy Plaza by James Fetzer.<br><br><br><br>Thoughts?<br><br><br><br>Stu<br>]]></description>
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      <description><![CDATA[On tonight&#39;s show I think they were talking about Edward Jay Epstein.&nbsp; I recently read this article by him in the WSJ about the Amerithrax investigation:<br><br><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704541004575011421223515284.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704541004575011421223515284.html</a><br><br>The article also mentions that he is working on a book on the 9/11 Commission.]]></description>
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      <description><![CDATA[&nbsp;<div class="Video"><object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/tvdS-1dcVxw&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/tvdS-1dcVxw&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="640" height="385"></object></div><div class="postbody"><br><div class="bb-wrapper"><table class="bb-table" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="bb-left-top" style="width: 4px; height: 4px;"><img src="http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="4" height="4" style="border: 0px;"></td><td class="bb-top" style="width: 100%;"><img src="http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="4" height="4" style="border: 0px;"></td><td class="bb-right-top" style="width: 4px; height: 4px;"><img src="http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="4" height="4" style="border: 0px;"></td></tr><tr><td class="bb-left"><img src="http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="3" height="4" style="border: 0px;"></td><td class="bb-content bb-quote" style="width: 100%;"><div class="quotecontent"><strong><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/16/bill-oreilly-killing-kennedy-book-jfk_n_1281266.html?ref=media" class="postlink"><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);">Bill O'Reilly's 'Killing Kennedy': Book On JFK Assassination Coming This Fall</span></a></strong><br><br>NEW YORK (AP) — After the big success of "Killing Lincoln," Bill O'Reilly is back on the case of a presidential assassination.<br><br>The<br> Fox News host and best-selling author is collaborating with Martin <br>Dugard on "Killing Kennedy: The End of Camelot." Henry Holt and Company <br>announced Thursday the book will come out this fall. O'Reilly says in a <br>statement that "Killing Kennedy" will "answer many questions" about the <br>death of JFK, who was murdered on Nov. 22, 1963.<br><br>Holt also <br>announced Thursday that a children's edition of O'Reilly's Lincoln book,<br> "Lincoln's Last Days," will come out in August. "Killing Lincoln," <br>co-written by Dugard, was one of the best-selling releases of 2011 and <br>has 1.5 million copies in print. O'Reilly's other works include "The <br>O'Reilly Factor" and "Pinheads and Patriots."<br><br><a class="postlink" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/16/bill-oreilly-killing-kennedy-book-jfk_n_1281266.html?ref=media">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/1 ... ?ref=media</a></div></td><td class="bb-right"><img src="http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="3" height="4" style="border: 0px;"></td></tr><tr><td class="bb-left-bot" style="width: 4px; height: 4px;"><img src="http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="4" height="4" style="border: 0px;"></td><td class="bb-bot" style="width: 100%;"><img src="http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="4" height="4" style="border: 0px;"></td><td class="bb-right-bot" style="width: 4px; height: 4px;"><img src="http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="4" height="4" style="border: 0px;"></td></tr></tbody></table></div><blockquote><div>While the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=439436#p439436" class="postlink"><span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);">mainstream media</span></a> was busy burying Oliver Stone, in the wake of <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=33579&amp;p=436208#p436208" class="postlink"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">"JFK"</span></a>,<br> these tabloid shows were crawling over each other to put out more and <br>more information (some of it mis/disinformation; some really good <br>reporting too).<br><br>From <a rel="nofollow" href="http://journals.democraticunderground.com/MinM/300" class="postlink">Bill O'Reilly's</a> reporting on <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=439306#p439306" class="postlink"><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);">Inside Edition</span></a>  <img src="http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif" alt=":arrow:" title="Arrow">  to Rupert Murdoch's <span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);">Current Affair</span> with the Thornley piece  <img src="http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif" alt=":arrow:" title="Arrow"> to <span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);">Hard Copy</span>...<br></div></blockquote><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=431096#p431096" class="postlink">rigorousintuition.ca ::E. Howard Hunt deathbed confession -- Rolling Stone mag</a><br><br><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=439594#p439594" class="postlink">rigorousintuition.ca :: The Dreadlock Recollections (Kerry Thornley)</a><br><br><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=448566#p448566" class="postlink">rigorousintuition.ca :: Mahatma Gandhi</a></div><br><br>					<br style="clear: both;">]]></description>
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      <dc:creator>robert1</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[I beg every member of this forum who lives in the United States of America...Show #565, 9Feb2012 show with Jim Lesar to please contact your House of Representative.&nbsp; Len has made this so&nbsp;EASY.&nbsp; 1.&nbsp; Go&nbsp;to show notes for 9Feb2012.&nbsp; 2.&nbsp; Go&nbsp;to next to last statement re: contact your Representative.&nbsp; 3. Click.&nbsp; 4.&nbsp; Put your home state.&nbsp; 5.&nbsp; It will automatically take you to your House of Representative Woman/Man.&nbsp; 6.&nbsp; Write "Support CIA document release under the Assassination Records Collection Act (1992)".&nbsp; 7.&nbsp; Click send.&nbsp; It took me all of 4 minutes to do this.&nbsp; Please do this now.&nbsp; Right now.&nbsp; Don't put it off.&nbsp; ]]></description>
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      <dc:creator>chuck1972</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[after listening to an archived show with john barbour i was compelled to get a copy of the garrison tapes on vhs. It is a perfect companion to the movie JFK even though much of the movie is embelished i still credit it with taking my life-long impression that something was not right about the death of number thirty five into a need to research any and all raw data on november 22 1963 i could find. currently looking for info on the daltex building and a first generation copy of the fox set of autopsy photos. anyway thanks for the info on barbours documentry]]></description>
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      <dc:creator>Stu Rodgers</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[Here&#39;s the YouTube link of the preview for thos who have not seen it.<br><br><div class="Video"><object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/px-7IRJpMZE&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/px-7IRJpMZE&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="640" height="385"></object></div><br><br>Stuart Rodgers, England]]></description>
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      <dc:creator>chuck1972</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[I am putting together a youtube ch. to share my collection of raw JFK stuff and at leaset previews of my dvds <br><br>I would love some opinions for the nest of archive footage etc.<br><br>It will be slow but I am aiming for worthy quality stuff. <br><br>I am learning this from scratch as well so suggestions on the process would be valued as well.<br><br>Obviously the legally blind guy uploading images in motion is ironic , but as I always say the conspiracy that executed JFK is so evident that a blind man sees it.<br><br>]]></description>
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      <dc:creator>dogdove</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[I'm reading the Secret Team right now and it's as many of you have experienced, interesting and fascinating.&nbsp; But there is something nagging at me about the man.&nbsp; He never actually says anything concrete.&nbsp; Nothing is end noted.&nbsp; For all I know it's a fiction book.&nbsp; I've heard Len's interviews with him and I've heard Len's defense about why Fletcher didn't "name names" and he seems like a very likably, very smart man.&nbsp; But that he went to his grave never actually giving up the truth, even as an aside and OFF THE RECORD to those who befriended him, kind of rubs me the wrong way and makes me suspicious of his intentions.&nbsp; Anyone else?]]></description>
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      <dc:creator>joesgot4</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[who,what,why, did someone shoot at general walker?<br>]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:56:47 -0400</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>MinM</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.anopenandshutcase.com/">An Open &amp; Shut Case » Welcome</a><br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;address=125x198955"><img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42339000/jpg/_42339466_kennedy_203.jpg" alt="image" style="border: 0px;"></a><br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;address=385x130352">New coverage on RFK acoustic evidence - Democratic Underground</a>]]></description>
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      <description><![CDATA[<i><span style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">As a work of the American federal government, the recording is in the public domain.&nbsp;This two-hour tape recording of the communications of&nbsp;</span><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_One" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;">Air Force One</a><span style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">personnel following the assassination is a new discovery which was recently donated to the National Archives. As part of NARA’s roll-out strategy for this high-profile item, the digitized recording was uploaded to Wikimedia Commons at the same time as it was&nbsp;</span><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/air-force-one-tape.html" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;">revealed on archives.gov</a><span style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">. &nbsp;We hope that the upload of these files to Wikimedia Commons will help increase their exposure while encouraging Wikimedians to add value to them through transcribing them or using them as encyclopedic source material and subject matter.</span></i><div><span style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: 19px;"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;"><a href="https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/01/30/us-national-archives-wikimedia-release-jfk-assassination-discovery/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/01/30/us-national-archives-wikimedia-release-jfk-assassination-discovery/</a></span></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: 19px;"><span style="font-family: sans-serif;"><br></span></span></div>]]></description>
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      <description><![CDATA[<div><p style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></p><h1 class="titles" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; font-weight: normal; font-size: 24px; line-height: 30px; text-decoration: none;"><a href="http://whowhatwhy.com/2012/01/23/the-deaths-of-jfk-rfk%e2%80%94and-the-silence-of-the-lambs/" rel="bookmark nofollow" title="Permanent Link to The Deaths of JFK, RFK—and the Silence of the Lambs" style="outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 20px; font-weight: bold; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; text-transform: capitalize; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-top: 10px; display: block; font: normal normal normal 22px/24px Georgia, serif;">The Deaths Of JFK, RFK—And The Silence Of The Lambs</a></h1><div class="post-info" style="margin-bottom: 10px; font-size: 12px; font: normal normal normal 14px/22px Georgia, Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 12px; font-style: italic;">By&nbsp;<a href="http://whowhatwhy.com/author/russ-baker/" title="Posts by Russ Baker" rel="author nofollow" style="outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(222, 33, 35);">Russ Baker</a>&nbsp;on Jan 23, 2012</div><p></p><p style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><i>As the 50<sup>th</sup>&nbsp;anniversary of the assassination of John F. Kennedy approaches, there is a growing flurry of material about—or even from—the Kennedy clan. This includes “insider” accounts and what are described as exciting, must-read and must-watch revelations.</i></p><p style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><i>Yet, for some reason, little of it is truly revelatory, or if it is, it seems, almost by design, very, very small potatoes indeed.</i></p><p style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><i>Take for example a new documentary by Bobby Kennedy’s daughter, for HBO. What’s the&nbsp;<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/movies/ethel_kennedy_spills_family_secrets_q8W0ISFWNaVdSQISXYEfdK#.TxmygFdt2Yc.email" style="outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(222, 33, 35);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">big revelation</span></a>? That Bobby feared…are you ready… that someone would throw acid in the face of his children. Who? The mafia. And when was this a threat?&nbsp;In the 1950s.When RFK was a Senate investigator, years before he and his brother ever got near the White House. And years before his brother and then he himself were killed under still-unresolved circumstances.</i></p><p style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><i>Got that? Nothing about elements other than “professional criminals.” Threat to his children, not him. And this was before RFK became Attorney General and started really going after the mob, and everyone else.</i></p><p style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><i>Oh—and nothing about who…killed him.</i></p><p style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><i>That’s Hollywood!</i></p></div><div>....</div><div><br></div><a href="http://whowhatwhy.com/2012/01/23/the-deaths-of-jfk-rfk%E2%80%94and-the-silence-of-the-lambs/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://whowhatwhy.com/2012/01/23/the-deaths-of-jfk-rfk—and-the-silence-of-the-lambs/</a>]]></description>
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